Off Season workouts

When school is not in session (Summer Vacation only), there isn't any restriction. I believe that it was attempted in the past, but too many HS coaches also coach Legion ball. It's really a moot point whether he is working with his players during the summer. If they are real ball players, they will be working out with their summer/fall teams anyway. Imposing additional practices on them when they are participating on other teams isn't practical.

Part of the restriction is to prevent a coach from requiring a player to compete for him during the summer/fall as a condition for "making the team".

Full NCHSAA restrictions go into place on the first day of school. This is a different date for each school system depending on when the first day of school is.

Fall and Winter workouts are for the benefit of the player. Even if the school doesn't have any workout program, you will see the committed players out working on their own.

 

Joke

This rule is an absolute joke. What other sport penalizes kids for wanting to improve their skills.

If I understand this correctly, No HS coach (Head or Asst) can be in contact with more than 8 players (from any HS) for a workout or games, after HS season ends in late May, until season workouts begin again in mid February?

Is this rule in place to displace any advantage or disadvantage that a team may gain from playing baseball? I wonder when this rule was implemented by the NCHSCA. 1910?

The dead period is a rule I can somewhat understand. What is the time period? Nov??? to Dec???

Kids must have some time off to heal & rest. A lot of HS players are playing/ working out from mid January to mid November. Some are still competing in December. They need SOME rest.

I am sure that many of the HS coaches in NC ( head or asst) are involved with some type of program outside their normal HS responsibilities. Could this rule eliminate half of the qualified coaches that participate in AAU, USSSA, Perfect Game, and showcase events?

Thoughts?

 

Sorry

Sorry NC...
You must have posted while I was trying to collect my thoughts..
Thanks.

 

Again NCBBallFan is right. I overlooked an exception in the rules that states:

"Coaches coaching a team outside the sports season but during the school year (basketball, soccer, etc.) must still abide by the numbers restrictions above (one less than a team). Exception: baseball/softball (Legion baseball, etc.) which extends into the summer."

I assume this exception would also include Showcase teams and tournament teams.

 

Yep, it does.

If not, there would be some screaming about discriminating against certain programs.

 

Conditioning Study

Saw this over on the HSBaseballWeb and it struck me, particularly since we were talking about workouts

CONCERNED ABOUT TOO MANY CARBS IN YOUR DIET?

For those players who watch what they eat, here's the final word on nutrition
and health. It's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting
medical studies.

1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
   Americans.
2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
   Americans.
3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks
   than Americans.
4. The Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart
   attacks than Americans.
5. The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats and
   suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

CONCLUSION:
Eat and drink what you like.
Speaking English is apparently what kills you

 

After reading over this thread, I sent a note to the NCHSAA and asked for a clarification on the baseball restrictions and the dead period. They responded:

"Limitations do not extend into the summer. American Legion, which generally starts before school ends is not bound by the restrictions either (thus the grandfather clause).
In the fall, restrictions are in place during skill development and when a team is actually involved in league play (Not a school playing another school).
Dead periods: From the start of Fall practice until September 1; start of Winter sports practice to Dec. 1; the last 5 days of each semester."

Under the Eligibility rules of NCHSAA it is stated: "SKILL DEVELOPMENT SESSIONS ARE ALLOWED, BUT SHALL NOT BE HELD DURING ANY TRY-OUT PERIOD OF AN IN SEASON SPORT." Per this, I would assume try-outs would be considered a part of the Fall or Winter sports practice.

Other than during June & July, would this not really handicap any high school coach that was planning on coaching a tournament team? Per my interpretation, which has been wrong before, this would prevent a HS coach or assistant coach (whether paid or not paid) from practicing with any group of players that contains more than 8 players from his school any time during the Fall. Since sometimes 2 or 3 teams run combined practices, you would assume this rule would prevent a HS coach from working with those combined teams at the same practice, during the Fall, if the combination of teams contained more than 8 players from his school (since the restriction really places the limit on the workout and not the team?

It also prevents the HS coach or assistant coach from coaching or practicing with ANY number of his players during the dead periods.

To me, it appears that these restrictions make it pretty difficult, without being disruptive to practice schedules and tournament schedules, for any HS coach or assistant coach to coach or workout with a tournament type team on a regular basis. It doesn't appear it would impact Legion teams much as they are grandfathered in during the school year and finsh up in mid summer.

What do you think?

 

IMO, November and December should be a dead period. Its crazy to make Nov. dead, then open up December which is abbreviated anyway with the holidays. Arms need a minimum of 2 months off, so why not put those two months together and call it a day. Players are probably better off playing basketball or team handball inside anyway, from a conditioning standpoint.This also gives the coaches some time off.
For the rest of the year, coaches should be able to do as they please. The 8 man rule just means fewer kids get a chance to practice. What good is that ?

 

With try-outs starting Monday I just relized something. now someone correct me if I'm wrong but August when school is not even in session for the first 2 weeks is still a dead period because of football try-outs. November is a dead period because of basketball try-outs and they can't even practice while out of school for Thanksgiving. Why is it that there is no dead period in Feburary for baseball and softball try-outs???
Don't get me wrong I hate all dead periods but if they have them for fall and winter sports why not for spring sports. If I were a baseball or softball coach I would be doing something to get this stuff changed.

 

It is also a dead period whenever there are exams going on.