Question for those stat pros

Thanks you guys!

For confirming that I have not suddenly lost my mind when it comes to stats keeping and rules.


Re: the lefty "running" slapper....When I was informed of this new ruling that states you record a sac if a runner advances, the reasoning I was provided is that "no one is hitting an .800 in fastpitch and this levels the playing ground."

That logic does not hold, at all. If a right batter hits a grounder to shortstop, a runner on second advances to 3B, but batter is put out at first it is a G63. Using the logic provided above, this would be a sac63 for the lefty slapper, eliminating that at bat, thus providing unfair weighting in the batting statistics.

And on that note, I put this one out there for ya'll....

Again, I am told that if a left slapper is up, they slap the ball to shortstop who subesquently overthrows to 1B, allowing the runner to be safe (if NOT for error, woudl have been out) - this is a HIT, not an error, as the job of the slapper is to force an error base on their base speed.

My argument to this logic would be: Since slapping is such a part of the game now, shouldn't being able to cleanly field and throw out a slapper being an automatic fundamental of the fastpitch game, thereby not falling under the extraordinary effort clause, but rather "normal play"?

 

.....so if a kid is a slapper and she has a 2 strike count against her, having no outs and a runner on first, then she slaps foul, she's still safe at bat by the rule that she was not bunting on a third strike....right?
Yes, I think we all get that a foul on a slap is not a bunt attempt,....now same scenario, the slapper gets a bleeder to the pitcher and is out at first, yet the runner moves to second, the scoring applied is a sac.
If in the same scenario a righthanded batter, drag bunts foul, she's out, if she lays down a perfect bunt but is out at first its not a sac.
Explain the reasoning or lack of reasoning in scoring these two obvious attempts to reach a base and not give yourself up for the good of the team, based simply on which side of the plate you hit from.

BTW, I'm a leftie and lived on dragbunting the sense out of every chance I could get.

Fishman

 

slap

needs to be one or the other.
if its a bunt then its an out if its foul with 2 strikes.

if its a swing foul with 2 strikes is not an out therefore its not a sacrifice and counts as an at bat. (this is how the umps at the abbey called it this weekend)

 

.........leftie slappers DO get a sac on a third strike gig as above. I'm not sure why, and in the end it really doesn't matter, but I'm with you JJPal, don't maka no cents to mee.

Fishman