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Running Bases and Headfirst slides

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by oldguycoach, May 2, 2006.

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May 3, 2006 at 2:22 PM #11

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head first slides

RJR4dad.............thx for the pix. shoulder injuries, finger breaks and wrest fractures are only some of the bad things that can happen with the head first.
May 3, 2006 at 2:24 PM #12

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oldguycoach said:

I am interested on getting feedback concerning the above topics. I, as a young man was taught early on by some Major Leaguers you probably never heard of (Junior Gilliam and Bobby Richardson) that when legging out a double or triple etc., you touch the outside part of the base with your left foot and swing your right foot, arm and shoulder toward the next base. I have chatted with many HS and College Coaches who tell me they dont really care which foot the boys (men) touch with as long as they touch it. Also when diving or sliding head first (which i dont condone, except diving back to first), I teach my young players to reach out with their left hand(toward the right field part of the base) when diving back to first since the 1st basemen will sweep tag to the inside of the base. At second and third base they reach out with their right hand away from the sweep tag of the 2nd basemen and 3rd basemen. Also I teach to hold their batting gloves or dirt in their hands so when they slide feet first their hands remain up and back and will avoid injuries to fingers and wrists. Im open to all opinions. Thanks
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what are your thoughts on crow-hopping?
May 4, 2006 at 3:55 AM #13

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Shraps is bored tonight
May 4, 2006 at 3:59 AM #14

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hotbox said:

Right or wrong I am not so sure anymore; these days it seems more important that the player does not miss the bag. Miss a bag in my day and you would feel pine and not in your hands. Not to date Old Guy Coach; we were also taught to hit the bag with the left foot and cross over by possibly the best college coach of all time, Eddie Stankey at the U of South Alabama, in the early 70's.
We were not allowed to slide head first unless it was a do or die and agree totally that the art of the hook slide is almost lost. I will tell you the guys who have learned it get the calls, probably because umpires do not expect it.
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Ahhh...Hotbox. You brought up a name from the past. I remember he was a tough old coot...and turned S Alabama into a baseball powerhouse
May 4, 2006 at 11:42 AM #15

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CrowHopping reply to Shrapnel

Crow Hopping is taught to outfielders to get more on their throws. It allows the body momentum to be going toward their throwing object. It should only be done on, what I consider, really long outfield throws since the crowhop,although helpful, does require more time, and time is not the friend of the defensive player. I also allow crow hopping for 1 legged black birds, but not infielders. LOL
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i dont like a crow hop ... especially the ones when the play is in the air 3 feet off the ground .. :imagestor

well.. it does take alot of time....if ya have the time to take a crow hop you must have had the time to set yourself up to be going towards the ball on the catch .. therefore you already have momentum going with your throw...

but what do i know.. i was a pitcher and infielder..
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infielder?

Intimidator Coach said:

i dont like a crow hop ... especially the ones when the play is in the air 3 feet off the ground .. :imagestor

well.. it does take alot of time....if ya have the time to take a crow hop you must have had the time to set yourself up to be going towards the ball on the catch .. therefore you already have momentum going with your throw...

but what do i know.. i was a pitcher and infielder..
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what about crow-hopping for infielders, yes or no? especially what about 2ndbaseman?
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Crow Hopping

I agree with the Intimidator Coach, if the outfielder has momentum already established coming in on the ball and catching it over his throwing shoulder, crow hopping just wastes time. I think a crow hop has to be used to establish momentum. About infielders doing it, I can,t think of any reason for it unless he is a cut off man that has to go real deep and is trying to establish momentum for a play at home. But again if he is turning as the ball gets to him, he has already established forward momemtum.
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Just so you know, Shrapnel has no interest in crow hopping. One time each year he will post on the preps sites and his post is always "What is crow hopping"....but having said that, you guys made some very good replies.
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Shrapnel said:

what are your thoughts on crow-hopping?
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It is a stupid sport developed by those that can't play hop-scotch.

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