State Games rosters?

I would agree

With all. Good points made. Maybe splitting some regions and combining with others. Coaches coaching in regions where they do not coach during the season. Will make the tryouts more meaningful. How can you pick favorites? I view these teams as vehicles for the kids to get in front of colleges. Maybe excluding those who have already committed to colleges. Yes it would exclude some talent. Yet it would open the door for others that may need this avenue to be seen.

 

Good points made, but I'm just not sure there is a good answer, I saw the (street agents, aau coaches, etc.) helping out at practice last year. I saw players that were kept from some of coaches teams, who definitely were not better than some that were let loose, I just don't know that there is an answer. The kids that are already committed, maybe not invited, that could work, after all they already have accomplished what most kids are hoping to get out of state games. To be seen by some college. Unfortunately, its just one of those things where who you know and politics is going to play a part.
Life. Just get used to it .Huh?

 

All good points guys, and let me just say, IMO the state games is one of the very best showcases any HS kid can attend, because scouts are there and they know its not daddyball-selected.

With that said, politics is a part of life. You, me, our sons will deal with it the rest of our lives. And we can't avoid it. Its natural. When I read about Joe Smoe hitting homeruns and making every game-winning play, getting all the headlines, and I'm coaching and Joe Smoe comes walking up, I'm picking him to be on the team. I'm sorry, thats just the way it goes.

If those teams have 18-20 man rosters, you have to figure 10-15 are a given. Players who are not in that "automatic" category are essentially fighting for those last few spots. And selecting those last few spots is what is tough for the coaches, given that 100 kids are trying out.

This is whats important to remember, theres ABSOLUTELY NO SHAME in not making this team. Just to try out is an extreme honor. I know of one local kid from Mecklenburg County (Braves knows who I'm talking about) who did NOT make his region 6 team when he was in HS. Did that mean he wasn't no good? Of course not. That kid had 3 great years playing in college, and is now playing pro ball.

Congrats to all the kids who even tryout, its an honor. Unfortunately you will be dealing with things that you sometimes think are unfair the rest of your life (jobs, promotions, etc). There's just no perfect solution to everything.

Good Luck to all.

 

TJ and guys, that was exactly my point. They do the best they can in an imperfect system.

 

"I don't know how you took that some other way."

The selection process hasn't even completed, yet we're offering all kinds of excuses why someone doesn't make the team: Politics, street agents, favorites, etc, etc....We even found a way to include Impact into this conspiracy.

Look guys, with over 50 players trying out for 20 positions, obviously there will be a majority that will be disappointed. Instead of focusing on why those 30+ did not make the team, why don't we congratulate the one's that did make it. To do anything else cheapens their experience and suggests they didn't deserve it.

We all agree that the process is imperfect, but we also agree that the coaches work hard, as volunteers, and try to do the best that they can.

I've read one potential improvement in this thread in correcting the process that makes sense. The most important reason the players want to play in this event is the opportunity to play before the many scouts that attend. Perhaps limiting the squad to non-committed players. But if you do this, guess what? Every major league team has scouts attending. They have certain players they are following, plus there are players that want to catch their attention. So is it right to exclude those players? I bet their parents wouldn't agree.

As you can see, you will not be able to make the majority happy. And it will be the majority that will voice their opinion.

Wait until the All Conference selections are made---that's where you will find the wheelin' and dealin', backroom politics are being played.

In the mean time, I urge everyone to get behind the players from your region that are selected and pull for them to come home with the gold. It means a lot to the players and coaches participating.

 

Braves, i'm not the one complaining. Hell, I was taking up for the coaches. I praised them for volunteering, talked how difficult it is and twice mentioned how it was an honor to be there. I don't think I ever used the word 'politics'. Even said however they choose will deserve it. Don't know how much nicer I could have been unless I didn't tell the truth. It's not a perfect system but it does work.

As to Impact, it's been good for the kids. I've never disputed that. As far as I'm concerned Impact helped showcase evolve and that is good for the kids.

 

Look, One Putt, I didn't quote you nor was i referring to you when you responded to me with, "I don't know how you took that some other way."

This was the topic of the thread: "Does anyone have any information on the underclassmen rosters for the 8 regions or the senior East-West rosters for the State Games?"

We didn't even get off the 1st page before the politics issue was brought up. I didn't quote you. I said I was speechless...how could a simple question about rosters turn into the selection process debacle.

When you did ask me for a response--I replied.

So you say Impact Baseball was involved, what does that mean? Are any of their coaches members of the Region team? Or did you mean something else?

Does truth become a problem? Sure it does

- Truth becomes a problem when someone presents what they believe is the truth through hearsay (unfortunately, this happens a lot)

- Truth becomes a problem when the truth is the kid has a bad attitude or the coach is a drunk and their names get posted on here.

Some posters type anything they want with no conscience or accountability. They don't hesitate to libel someone or post untruths knowing they can hide behind a screen name with no fear of ramifications....leaving me to deal with the mess they created. Having to calm down the offended parties, pledge my assertiveness to try to prevent that from happening again....and then have others ask.....why did you delete or lock that thread?

If anybody wants to volunteer to discuss with the Mom that was upset with a comment about her son. With the father who was accused of an illegal transfer, with the coach whose reputation was trying to be damaged by a jealous parent...or from an organization that has been accused of everything short of Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance. Please let me know....so I can refer them to you and I can spend my time doing what I like to do...talking about the players.

 

I also saw where the thread was headed. A poster made a comment trying to get a reaction from someone and he did. I was trying to diffuse it before everyone screamed 'fix', 'scandal', or whatever word you want to insert. Personally, it's been good for us.

 

and I agree. You did a good job in diffusing it as well as other threads. Again, my initial comment was not directed at you

 

how about this...

How about posting some of the nominees...the nomination is the real honor...the actual roster has to be functional, meaning there may be three future MLB catchers in region 6 but with a 20 man roster only 1 may make it. No slap in the face to the other 2 its just a position/roster deal.