Touching bases rule

Basehit, very eloquent & measured. I compliment you on your respectful response in spite of the objections raised by myself & a few others. You have a promising future as an attorney.


Without a doubt you personally did nothing wrong. I will be rooting for you to win the title.

 

I also applaud Basehit for posting on this hot topic,,,, and I've tried to be very careful "NOT" to blame South Meck even if they "DID" appeal. My personal belief is that its good coaching to teach your players to watch for missed bags,,,,,,,,, but as Dodgerblues stated, I too agree that when a homerun goes "over the fence", then "that" is the time you merely tip your hat to your opponent.

Basehit, thank you for sharing your comments and a sincere good luck to you and your teammates this weekend. I don't blame you guys at all, I blame the umpire. It was a good situation for a no-call...

And btw, that one call certainly didn't determine that series,,,, you guys won fair and square...

 

And Yankees, I would be willing to bet that in most situations like that, the 1stbase coach would be doing the same thing that nearly everyone else in the ballpark is doing,,,, and that would be watching the ball sailing over the fence...

We all do it, then we immediately glance back at the hitter who has usually already rounded 1st base.

I'd bet the 1stbase coach didn't see the runner hit the bag either, and if your implying that he should,,,, I'll still maintain that in that instant of excitement, he's watching the ball 90% of the time.....

 

I am out of touch with the current rule, but if I understand it correctly, any player who comes on the field to celebrate a home run is supposed to be ejected.


Is that rule correct?? I know there was an incident involving this earlier this season). If so, I want to ask the rule book hardliners: If in the State Title game...in the top of the 7th inning...a kid hit a grand slam that gave his team a 9 run (seemingly insurmountable) lead & the entire team ran to the plate to celebrate, do you think the umpires should eject the entire team, causing them to forfeit the game??
If I have correctly represented the rule, then that would be the technical correct call, right? But would it be the prudent call?? What say ye?? Just curious.

 

I agree with you on 2 points

I agree he probably was, but the question I asked is what is he supposed to do?

I fully understand the emotion of the young man and his enthusiam, gosh it's great to watch kids play and have fun.

What I haven't shared is that I have coached football at the College level years ago and know how important it is that the Coaches, or atleast somebody on the staff be of the cool, calm collected nature. That is the guy while everyone else is getting lost in the moment see's the little things, yells out to the batter to go back and touch the base. Heck he wasn't out until he left the field of play. Even if the coach couldn't stop him until he came down the third base line, he could still retrace his steps and go back to 1st and touch the base. Most good coaching staffs have a mixture of personalities from the guy who is super emotional who pumps up the kids, to the guy with ice in his veins who is analysing every detail and making the right coaching moves during a game.

I think it is the 1st base coaches job to coach first base. I don't have a kid, nor play myself at South Meck., my son doesn't even play in that conference though we did play them twice this year.

The first base coach got out coached. It is a coaches job to do any and everything he can within the rules to give his team a chance to win, and that is what Coach Bagwell did.

Like I said before I personally see no purpose in making a player touch the bases on a homerun. What's the point other than to let him enjoy the moment. Why not just let him stand at home plate until all the guys on base cross the plate and let him acknowledge the crowd. Let's get the rule changed.

 

UK7dook3

Boy your going to make me waffle a little here. Let me make my case before you hammer me.

This is a brand new rule, whereas the other we've been discussing has been in existence pre-Babe Ruth <G>, I think, I'm not that old.

I think this is where a good Umpire in the Pre-game meeting at the plate clearly explains to the Coaches that this new rule is in effect, and emphasizes that they had better talk to their teams. Or, he consults with both coaches about not making a call in this situation, and assuming both agree to not to enforce the rule, so be it. Yes the rule would not be enforced, but it was agreed to before hand by both parties and it's a terrible rule in my opinion.

I'm going to say it again, but this is a terrible rule supposedly put in place for safety, I'm real curious as to how many injuries have occured at the plate. Coach May, or any one else do you have any stats on the injury rate in this game situation? I find it hard to believe that it is significant, but I could be proved wrong cause I have no idea, I just can't remember seeing anyone hurt in this situation.

Old, but I can still dance around the issue.

 

You had the right to dance. It's really a petty rule (if I have it right..I'm still not certain). I respect your response.

 

I'm not so sure the rule was put into place because of injuries at the plate from celebrating. That may be part of the reason.
The main objective of that rule was to prevent fights with the opposing team from taunting etc.( just my opinion )

 

I have read 50 + posts on this incident and none of them put the responsibility where it belongs. I don't know anyone involved so this is nothing personal but the responsibility lies with the player. Period! You guys are searching for someone to blame, I have heard everyone but the ticket taker. I know at my house we would be looking in the mirror before we blamed the opposing coach, the opposing players, the 1st. base coach,or the umpires. Life is full of technicalities that we all have to deal with some make sense, some don't, some are fair, some aren't. I could list you at least 20 we all have to deal with every day. Slowly roll thru a stop sign, you could get a ticket. Show up late for practice, you might not play. Miss 1st. base on a home run, you could be called out! Over draw your bank account and make a deposit at 2:05 and watch what happens. These all are technicalities and they all have consequences. Miss 1st. base in the adult world and the consequences could be a lot more expensive.
Everyone that has posted feels for the player, so do I. But as Doctor Phil would say " he has to take ownership of this one ".

 

Response to Insider

This was the first I had seen of this, sorry i did not look in round 4 results as I was out of town and away from my computer for a long period of time... Thanks for the sarcasm...