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Discussion in 'Baseball' started by catchingheat, Nov 5, 2007.

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  1. GloveSide

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    Sorry Braves I couldn't resist.

    I say get rid of all rules regarding transferring! Whats the purpose of them anyway? I mean really what was the original premis behind them? Whats the point anymore? I really just don't get it.

    You have academic schools of choice....so whats the point of transfer rules for the sake of balanced athletic programs?

    I know we have gone all over this but golly!

    No school left behind has really, IMO, changed the landscape academically. In fact schools that don't make AYP can be shut down. SHUT DOWN!! Doors closed, kids transferred to other schools....
     
  2. Plate Dad

    Plate Dad It is what it is!!!!

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    Let's just build one big HS. For each county. We can use vacant office buildings. Bus everyone in. No car riders. Hey it would solve the no child left behind.
     
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    The fact remains

    If its not legal its wrong. If its legal its a personal decision. What else needs to be said?
     
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    You hit the nail on the head, as usual Coach. While it would be ideal if ALL athletes played at the school they actually lived the closest to and attended, this is not the reality of today. Unfortuantely, the best programs recruit through the accomplishments of the program, which attracts all who want to play for a "winner". This is the sad state of HS athletics, but however, is one we must live with. We may as well live with it.
     
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    athletics

    if you just throw the door open for transferring as you suggest, then you would need to come up with a whole new set of rules for regulating the recruiting that would take place. really. like the colleges.
     
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    Dead horses.

    coachevans26 I respectfully quote you in part.

    Please allow

    "...it would be ideal if ALL athletes played at the school they actually lived the closest to and attended,..."

    Why?

    lets substitute some words:

    "...it would be ideal if ALL (students attended) the school they actually lived the closest to..."

    Why?

    If the school district you live in fails to meet AYP then you have a choice to transfer you kid into another school in the school of choice program. "School of Choice" is just a defined system set up to allow students to transfer out of low performing schools. In our district each HS has its own "Academy." Within the district you can transfer to any of the "Academies." All of the academies are based off a particular career field of interest such as Engineering, Medicine, Law Enforcement, etc. Its very competitive to get into these "Academies." EACH School has an academy. However fewer are going to transfer into the lower performing Schools even to attend the Academy of their possible future career interest.

    IMO this system allows a student "legally" to get out of a screwed up (academically) school. It doesn't matter if the student is an athlete or not.
    Since it is very competitive to get into one of these Academies typically the highest performers will get in. Some of the best students leave the lower performing schools. This partially depletes the school of some of its more gifted students further exasperating the academic situation..
    For instance, 10 kids get selected and 7 of them are some of the best SAT scores in the school. Those 7 high SAT's leave that school. Note I said that 10 from a school were selected to attend a school of choice.

    IF you had school of choice for athletics might it work this similar? One school is the baseball academy. One is the basketball academy.

    Athletics IS a career choice even if you are not one that plays on a team.

    There are many excellent opinions on here and I respect them all.

    Im suggesting that the current rule system for HS athletics might be antiquated.
     
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    The thing thats gets me. When I was in HS I did not know what I wanted to do. Now we have kids working toward a career and they have not even got to college yet. Let them get back to reading,writing and math. All this AG, Honors, Pre-college, IB, and the list goes on are great things but, how many levels do we need. Choose a program the be the top. Leave it at that. We have become so over the top. Putting pressure on kids to choose what they want to do now. We could be setting them up to fail in the future.

    :cyclist::basket::cowboy::beatnik::detective::crowngrin::comp1::builder::scholar::chef::judge::army: Be what you want.
     
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    Lets look at some things here for a moment. Whats is the purpose of public education? I referred to athletes in my original post because that was the topic of discussion, please dont read into it that I was not referring to students. They are all STUDENTS first!! Having sports specific "academies" would never fly. Though athletics is a career choice, the chances of a career in athletics are slim, and if you go beyond the athletes you need degrees in management , business, education, etc... to continue your involvement in athletics beyond direct participation. Therefore, you cannot justify sports specific schools / academies in the same light as a school for health & humanities, an IB program, etc... High school athletics hold their place and a very valuable one at that, as the extracurricular activities they are. It is the reason I became a high school teacher and coach.

    Like my second principal said to me one day when I needed to leave to get to practice at the high school when I was a first year head coach... "Which of your paycheck is the largest?" ... "So which one should have priority?"...

    The answer is simple. IF you want your child to play baseball, football, tiddliewinks, march in band, etc... then SELL your house and buy a new one and live in the school district of the school you want your child to attend... PERIOD. It is that plain and simple. If you want your child to go to X High School, move to that district and nothing can be said at all!!

    My sincere apologies if I offend anyone with this, but this subject hits a nerve with me. No disrespect intended.
     
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