would you let your daughter play for this coach??

Just curious...

Would any of you actually pull your daughter off or encourage her to quit a team like this if they had given her a scholarship to play ball?

Wouldn't that ultimately be her decision since it is a college team and she should make her own decision?

 

Very

good point javcatcher. My question is, where the heck is the AD in all this? If this coach has done this before and other conference coaches caught onto it like someone previously posted, I would guess a call would have been made to the offending coach's institution and a conversation would have been had between them.

I have never ever seen a coach do something like this and I've been around the game as a coach for over 13 years. We do pay close attention to the runners on foul balls, subs, huddles, etc and never had a coach try to get one over on us. Besides all the obvious points everyone has made about the cheating, what about the sport itself? I am only still coaching because I truly love the game of fastpitch. It has blessed me quite a bit in helping me to learn good lessons and bad ones, but I am a better person for it. It has never crossed our minds as a staff anywhere to disrespect the game. How low can you get, really? Character, trust, loyalty, respect...where does crossing the line to win fit into those attributes of a person? It just doesn't and the team will be lumped into that negative category in time if it is allowed to continue.

 

Agreed!

"eyesup", you read my mind! After reading the first 3-4 reply on this, I wanted to know why the AD or someone from the university had failed to discipline the coach. I think we are all in agreement what level of respect this coach has for the game and his players (none) and his morals as a coach, but could this also say something about the AD and possibly even the university? I hope not, but the question has to be asked...

 

Cheating

In the further discussion of this event, I assume this was at the college level. If it were to have happened in the highschool arena I'll offer an analogy.
HS coaches are on staff at school and most likely a teacher, agreed?
If he was giving his class a test and one of the students had to use the bathroom(timeout). Returning in that students place was someone else to finish the test. Would that coach consider it cheating? How much trouble would both students be in?
I'm sure suspension would be forthcoming. In college it is an expulsion event. I actually witnessed this a 100 years ago in college.
I certianly hope that behavior is the exception and no I wouldn't want my daughter playing for him.

 

This is exactly why cheating in High School classes are rampant. Adults in every capacity are teaching kids that you have to cheat to win or get ahead.

The coach in the original example should have been ejected for making a travesty of the game.

 

Tar, check.
Bag of feathers, check.
Rope, check.
Rail, check.
Crowd to help,????

 

Below is rule 12 - 10e from the 2007 NCAA rule book.

e. When, after a conference, base runners switch positions on the bases
they occupied, the ball has been put back in play, and before the end of
the half-inning.
EFFECT—Each runner on the improper base shall be declared out
and ejected. In addition, the head coach shall be ejected for
unsportsmanlike behavior.

Now, if this was an unreported sub: Rule 8 - 4

4. If the unreported player is the base runner placed on second base in
the tiebreaker or is a pinch runner, and a pitch (legal or illegal) has
been thrown and:
(a) The unreported player is on her original base when the violation
is reported by the defensive team.
EFFECT—“No pitch” is declared. The unreported player shall be
called out and declared officially in the game.

Also, here is how coaches are expected to behave: Notice E below:

Coaches
Coaches are expected to be leaders and must comply with the following
principles and ethics:
a. Develop and maintain a comprehensive knowledge of current NCAA
softball rules.
b. Ensure their players are legally equipped and properly attired for
competition and practices.
c. Confine discussion with the game officials to the interpretation of the
rules.
d. Honor all game contracts and play through all tournament brackets as
scheduled.
e. Comply wholeheartedly with the spirit and intent of the rules. The
deliberate teaching of players to violate the rules is indefensible.
f. Teach their players to respect the dignity and integrity of the game,
opponents, officials, spectators and the institutions they represent.
g. Prohibit team personnel from using profanity or making personal or
malicious remarks toward opponents, officials and spectators.
h. Refrain from any personal action that might arouse players or spectators
to unsportsmanlike behavior.
i. Be in control of their players at all times in order to prevent any
unsportsmanlike act toward opponents, officials or spectators.
j. Seek help from the on-site administrator or other appropriate individuals
in controlling unruly students and spectators.
k. Be courteous and display a dignified attitude toward the game and its
participants.