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You make the call

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by NCBBallFan, Jan 14, 2005.

  1. NCBBallFan

    NCBBallFan Retired ex-moderator

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    I am also clarvoyiant. I could read tj21's mind ... he really wanted to respond to this one.

    The beautiful (or terrible) thing about baseball is that nothing happens until the umpire says it happens. Remember, this is MLB rules, not FED.

    In the case above, it is not a force situation. The runner from first was called out on an appeal play (did not tag). If the team in the field does not also throw the ball to 2nd base, creating an automatic appeal of the run (regardless of the out), then the run counts (the DNT call for the runner at 2nd isn't issued unless it's apealled by the defensive team).

    This play actually happened in a game between the Mets and Cubs. Andre Dawson was the right fielder, he tossed the ball to first, call the 3rd out call and the the team trotted off the field. Rhyne Sandburg, playing 2nd, realized the mistake quickly and ran back onto the field, grabbed the game ball and ran to 2nd base for the DNT appeal.

    Since the Cubs had left the field, they had lost their right to appeal. A team looses that right when "the pitcher and all of the fielders have crossed into foul territory, abandoning the field". Under rule 7.10 (d), the run counts.
     
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    :jump:

    NCBBALLFAN, you know I've been to that last question, done seen that, and bought the t-shirt... :xyzthumbs

    Btw, these are good'ens,,,,,,,, keep'em coming...
     
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    A new batch later everyone .... gotta do a core dump on my brain and scrape up some more garbage to post.

    :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:
     
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    Here is a new one.

    The Situation: Willy Mitchell is pitching to Michael Schaefer. There is a runner on 2nd base (David Dorsey) with only one out. The count is 3-2. Willy decides to throw a palm ball, trying to get a ground ball to SS, so the runner at 2nd will have to freeze..

    The Play: The ball slips from his hand during the delivery and pounds itself into the ground about 30 feet in front of the mound. It bounces a couple times, trickling forward towards the batters box. The catcher comes out of his crouch, jumps into the opposite batters box and tries to "stare" Dorsey back to second base, but, when the ball comes to rest about 10 feet in front of the plate, Dorsey can't resist and takes off towards 3rd. The catcher throws himself towards the ball, trying to make a play on Dorsey headed to 3rd, but the batter, Shaefer, plows into the catcher while trotting to first base. Dorsey slides into 3rd without a play being made and Mitchell goes ballistic on the mound.

    You make the call. Who's where and why?
     
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    This is a good one NC. I can see this happening. I'm going to take a chance at this one but I'm not 100% confident in my answer, but here it goes.... Blue calls a balk, dead ball and you have runners at 1st and 3rd. :thinking:
     
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    Darn close Homer3.

    It is a balk. The ball doesn't cross the foul lines it's not a legal pitch, so it's not ball 4. The umpire should yell out balk as soon as the ball comes to rest. Until it stops rolling, it's a potential "wild pitch" or maybe just "ball 4".

    The count remains 3-2 and you have a runner at 3rd base.
     
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    I can just see the ump trying to explain this to a coach in a close game. But you are right, you gotta wait and see where the ball stops.

    Thanks for exercising the brain!
     
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    Here is a variation on a Major League rule. This one is a fun one and it really happened.

    Situation: The Brooklyn Dodgers (early 50's) early in a game start razing the umpire unmercifully from the bench. The bench jockeys get rougher and rougher on the plate ump and start calling him most names in the book and a few that aren't in the book. The entire bench gets involved in the harrassment.

    The "Play": The umpire, in disgust "ejects" all the players on the bench that weren't in the game. The dugout is cleared of players not actively on the roster and the game continues.

    The Ruling: In case of an injury to a remaining Dodger player who is in the game, what is the ruling?
     

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